sure thing. So I never intended to get involved in the field of social enterprise. I was very passionate for a long time about global health. Did most of my backgrounds, including into Harvard than a Cambridge working on global health challenges, specifically spending four years working in Bangladesh with a very large social enterprise, an NGO called BRAC. On that, I think excited me about some of the challenges within the global health field. What pulled me into social enterprise was actually some of this frontline experiences as a researcher studying on organization like BRAC and seeing the challenges they had, particularly around digital identification for frontline patients. So their ability, for example, toe Lincoln mother to multiple maternal health care visits particularly, very challenging context places where few people had formal I d. They weren't registered or even recognized necessarily by the state. And so that was, I think, the first influence for me that made me wonder. Okay, if we could grapple and maybe solve some of these challenges through technology, social enterprise could be a vehicle to do that. And so I began spending some nights and weekends working on the problem on you quickly realized this is what I wanted to do. I think that was the experience that brought me into this sector

sure. So I think one of the moments where it really clicked for me was at a hackathon hosted by the University of Cambridge, where they were asking the question. Look, we've seen a wave of digital health scale. We're seeing a bunch of organizations, a bunch of teams, a bunch of governments, a bunch of nonprofits starting to use digital health tools at scale. Can we find a better way to make sure that we have regular and reliable patient identification for some of these digital tools? And so really was trying different solutions that that hackathon, including biometrics, where we first kind about that Ah ha moment. Maybe this could be viable solution. The first few weeks, honestly, was just talking toe lots of people listening to their experiences with digital health, listening to the bottle. Next, they described. I was so deeply ignorance about the entire field at that point that I came in. I think we're the very blanket and probably now, in some cases, naive understanding of what was happening in this space. But it's stuck with me. It was I was still a researcher. At that point, I was still doing my PhD, but it's stuck with me that there is a challenge here that is worth spending some time on. I think the more time I spent slowly, I started to find this went from nights and weekends, uh, today's and weekdays, and before I knew it, I was spending nearly all of my time on this problem at that, I think was the moment I had a sense. Okay, there's something here that I'll be excited about dedicating a portion of my life to solving.

sure. So if you can imagine this really started as a student team on, I think, particularly for some of the students that they're thinking about different careers and maybe considering exploring three impact sector, the social enterprise sector for us, what I think really was great and actually quite fantastical of being a student team beginning this student team is we had a unique and protected space to experiment with these ideas, try different things, talked to a lot of very smart, very capable people get their feedback before I think we're context where we're having to, you know, shape and manage careers. I'm thinking about making a major career transition, and so I feel quite privileged. We were inoperative, had the opportunity to do that. As we went through the experience, we made pretty much every mistake you can make. So, for example, when it came to recruiting the original team, I think we had three different ways of early stage founders. Part of the organization. Um, student volunteers like myself, who came in, tried it for a little bit and said, This is hard work, not for me. What's I'm gonna move on to something else. We're all students have runs volunteer, know lots of different organizations all over the place on I think it took us three cycles until we came across the team that actually stuck with it and said, You know, we wrap up our researchers, we end out time the students. Maybe there's something we could think about that could be a career in the space. I think I'll break through moment was probably winning the saving lives of Birth Grand Challenge hosted by Use a Gates Foundation. Others. When we had some funding to take this from a student concept to real social enterprise, that was the big moment for us. That was the breakthrough.