cool. So I graduated in business in Brazil almost 15 years ago, so I'm getting old. And, uh, when I graduated, I entered the last article I entered, joining Small company to work a ZA train leader. And I had the opportunity to see this somebody, the company when I had about 30 people. So it was very small. In the beginning, it and I was able to participate in pretty much everything related to strategy and growth for the company. The company grew to almost 500 people afterwards. So I think participating from this process off growing a company and seeing what happens, uh, what's very important to shape my cover your back? Not only because it helps me see, uh, that I really wanted to become an entrepreneur. Everyone that you had that experience again, but with my own business. Um, but also to learn different skills, stone operations, business, market, E things like that. I would say that that was a good incident, because in my school, normally at tick years ago, startups were not fucking as they are today. So most people that study in my business school you should go for March preparations. This you will work for a company like light companies like the non slip Citibank And I didn't connect to this company that didn't want to go work for a large corporation. I had the opportunity to work a small company and I think this make this made a huge difference in my path. Actuary, And not so in my inspiration to start body is because it is biggest company. We work in the in the martyak industry. So we work helping large corporations to prove their marketing operations poses. And I could see how apart for them while she get insights from what consumers were buying and experiencing their brothers. So which we envision the opportunity to help in the inside the station side off the exit, interested so that that house

Yes. So bring actually started inside Arizona inside this company that I joined that determination. But I worked almost all my career. The same company from soc regulated. I worked there and I became a partner layer. And I'm a harder today someone off the one of the partners of the company. I'm not an executive anymore. But when I waas in the company, I had I had this idea of Brady and I presented that you, like my partners and at first birth boarding are supposed to be a business unity off our Arizona for other company. And I started work working myself using far of my hours. Besides the other activities that I've had in the company to start beating the business plan and see if it makes us. And then it started growing. I started to get the work for more people, for the teacher to about me, uh, actually with the business, innit? Iwas up to almost with 10 people. And that's the moment when we decided she's been off the company from

So I find that dimension when we were first inside a company. So we were having the experience of being a rich startup because we didn't need funding because we had funding from from my own company. So we had salaries we had Everything was working very well when we decided. Just be not We went back just in a row. So that's when way went back to okay? Not I have no money. I have No, no funny idea Choo choo to rethink everything. I think that will separate and distant furrows because we know this a lot off. Uh, you provide activities in a scene when when you have a lot of money, you started pouring money on everything and you don't think that much about how people. And when we started again, I think it made us become much more Mark much more me than we were in the beginning. Uh, we were lucky that because of her is on a become because of after this somebody with what we had a lot off connections with disastrous, strong from resume, uh, from pursuit. And, uh, this investors were already either city birdie when we started talking about 40 then, uh, inside your company and I just about 10 months after we left a result afterwards spinned off. We received a message around from front of funds that we already view in Brazil. They Jerome was very relevant for us. Teoh start growing. The team that doesn't do then was only only the Congress. And I think in the beginning I'm also investors. I also have investment group. I think even the in the early stages of the company of the most important thing that you need to show is that you have a vision that you're passionate about, what you're doing and showing that you were the right person. She should do that business. You have the right team. You are not giving up. Uh, you are going The last were running that last mile. You're getting other to get at because in the beginning is all about between the idea of the markets. Uh and I think we were able to show that they had a very good That's probably my favorite team. Wear very different people that worked together on S Bahn. We will get more strong, Uh, and we just raise the second round will now just raised a seed round in the middle of the pandemic. We're very concerned about the fund. Any How would it be with the funds? But we just break the C. Brown. So we were able to get this backstage, and I need the main difference. Wrong the n jerome in the sea ground ball for a few early This is early. But you know, said Ron, we're ready to prove that our idea really works, so you need to have quieted the attraction. It's not about the idea and the team anymore. Off Corsetti is always important, but that you need to prove that they can execute 12. She they don't not only have a vicious, I think these are the two main differences, and I think the challenges that every entrepreneur has is you receive a lot of notes. Eso It's sometimes very hard because, because, uh, you hear from somebody that you're Vietnam doesn't make sense that your brother it's not going to work with that and sometimes start frustrating. But I think it's it's all about the assistant learning. I think that one of the most important things that entrepreneurs do is should be very open to feedback and very moldable so they can learn and evolve as the company grows showing the problem, people shoe when you need to know that there are a lot of lots of different types of investor than you need to find the one that has a people and investors a partner and better if somebody is going to be with you for a little boring. So you did. You have a very good relationship with them and you need to choose them. Truth is not only about them choosing you, I also about you choosing the right investments for you.