Um, yeah, I, uh My path to marketing was actually kind of twisted, if you will. And I was a c p. A. I was actually a accountant. And so from accounting and I was with one of the KPMG Peat Marwick, which is one of the big four for a little while. But I after two years of doing all the tame, and I realized that's not something I wanted to dio. But I did not know what I want to do when I grow up, you know? So I was trying different things, To be honest with you, I got a job actually as a consultant, which is doing a lot of training and then doing a lot of training for for the company. So I'm right. I was writing a training materials, and from there I joined Intel and an intel. I was in the finance and accounting side, then moved to operations and then moved Thio manufacturing and moved to supply chain. So at that time, intel actually encourage people to move around, even though I did not have experience for that specific area. But they encourage you to move around to learn and because of that mentality and I learned so much I got a chance to move around to the different area, from finance and accounting to manufacturing, to operations to product team. And then one of my managers moved to event operations. So he was doing one of the major events for Intel and he asked me, Hey, do you want to do even operation? I was like, Yeah, sure, why not? So I end up joining Rob and I ended doing one of the event operations and eventually landed in even marketing. And from there I end up staying in the marketing for the whole time. So, like I said, I guess the key take away is you know what you study is important, but it's not the most important things after you worked for several years, so yeah.

Um, obviously, I was working for Intel for 20 years, and then I left Intel and I started my own business, so relentless facilities in my own company and is actually a very small company. So I'm the founder. I'm the VP of marketing. I'm the VP of the sales. I wear multiple hats. If you ever started working for a start up, Eventually you will know that you are going to wear multiple hats eventually, right? Sometimes you're gonna do sale. Sometimes you marketing, sometimes you create content and sometimes you won't be a receptionist. So what kind of responsibility do I have? I wear multiple different hands. I am on the sales side. I will not get inside. I do this, Dad. And from time to time, I even do I t. Because we have a small team. So I have to help people out and try to be efficient. Andi also cost effective. I try to learn multiple things at once or multiple times or over a period of time. So what are some of the top three priorities and the pain points? I guess wearing multiple hats is one of the pain points and challenges that means, You know, if you work for a big company for a long period of time, your job is doing specific. If your job is marketing, that's what you do like it, right? So you are working for a small company or you're working for yourself. The 10 points is also the challenges, also the fun part. That's because you have. You have to do multiple things if you have a chance to do multiple things. The biggest benefit off that if you learn over time, you won't make sense. So the colleges like your weight, multiple heads and do wonderful things and another challenges. I have no boundary. I worked 24 7. That's because I work for myself. When you work yourself, you have to hustle. But when I worked for a big corporation, I hustled to rather than working for 24 hours. I work for 20 hours, So you still do. You still work overtime when you work for the corporation because you have press deadlines, you have deliverables. You have to dio. But when you work for yourself, um, this is my choice. I'm not saying that you have to do it when you graduate and to start watching for yourself and the life 24 7. That's not my point. My point is I made that personal choice to work long hours, and that is my choice, and I'm not complaining about it. But at the same time, if you do want to work for yourself one day, just be cognizant. That's one of the price. Chances are you will have to pay. Of course, you probably wanna like the working life balance. That's good, too. But be aware when you do that, like you know, the pace of moving your business faster is going to be slow. It will slow down. Does that make sense? So when you started making working for yourself or you decide to do that, there are a lot of choices you will have to make over a period of time. And you just need to understand what choices you're making and what consequences are and acknowledge it like I know I have no about three. I worked long hours, and that's my choice, and I acknowledge it. So that's one thing I want to share with you

So the things that I like the most about working for yourself is flexibility. Okay? And, ah, lot of time was like, Oh, you are your own boss, boss. Yes and no, I am my own boss. But really, I'm also the slave to my clients. Does that make sense? So I have a client, right? I My job is to serve them. They pay me, right. So I have a say in terms of how I want to manage my time. But there are times when my client's needs something, uh, to be done, like next hour. Guess what? Sometimes I have to be on my feet to try to get things done in a within a very short period of time. Off course. You want to minimize that. So on one hand, when I tell everybody I work for myself, I'm a freedom. I have flexibility at the same time that freedom and flexibility, flexibility also come with a price, right? You are not necessarily have 100% freedom and flexibility When the time that you have to deliver something for your client. Well, you know what? You are working 24 hours to 70 straight trying to get trying to meet that deadline. Kind of like you are taking the final right. So before the final, you like, Do I want to skip the class or do I just don't want? I want to take it easy? I don't want to study this week, but when the final comes, boom, that whole two weeks you have to study very hard, right? That same analogy applies, right? I have the flexibility and freedom of working for myself. Like today, I decided to get a 10 o'clock. That's because I have no meeting from 8 to 10 a.m. Pacific standard time. But when I decided that Oh, are my clients say, Pam, I need that this presentation was supposed to deliver the next Wednesday. But you know what I really needed tonight? You know what you have just kind of like step up and try to get that done. So that makes sense. So on one hand, I enjoy the flexibility and freedom of working for myself. The flip side is, sometimes you are at your client's mercy, and the pleasant surprises in terms of working for myself is I do a lot of speaking. So prior to code it. I travel a lot. I traveled to different countries to speak. And then I also do a lot of workshops with different companies. And that gives me opportunity to actually have a chance to go to different countries and also see how different companies work. And that was one perk I really, really enjoy, so