I started. Well, the first thing I ever really did, um, kind of business wise was I ran a technology review YouTube channel for about five years. I started in high school. I built it toe around half million and subscribers, and it was a nice sustainable business. Um, over time I really stopped enjoying the video in the content and the social media side, and it was just a business keeping me in and then actually a, uh, through a scholarship program I was in in college. Um, during a summer, I had to spend eight weeks in a fairly remote location, so I couldn't make videos, and that was a It was a big moment, Wales about, like, I've really enjoyed not making videos. So after that, me and my buddy rich quick, Um, who's now my business partner? Um, we have been getting dinners once month, just exploring ideas on. We were really looking for something with a larger ceiling or a bigger opportunity. And the first one, that stuff was give me a call one day and he just was complaining about parking that he was late to a meeting because the parking and that was the first time we explored any idea from the angle of a problem, rather than like I have an idea for a solution on then That's just started a long train of iterating and pivoting. But the fact that we started just like this does something there's no real good solution for it out, and then that was just the start.

beginning. It was definitely kind of euphoric. I guess I would say it was. Every idea seemed perfect. There was so much possibility we had no idea of, like the reality of the complicated nature of the problem. Um, way started thinking like, Oh, parking up. That's a great idea, like, let's have a parking up where we help people find parking faster And it sounds great in theory, uh, and it's a good product idea, but it's really bad. Start up idea is every parking out that's out there loses a ton of money, and they just have really huge Salesforce's. So if we were competing with them, that would really work out. In our favor is a new entrants. So from there it after the first few months, it really became about what is feasible execute. In the six months time frame, 12 months expanded out from there, taking the realistic approach rather than the optimistic or the like. You know the dystopian approaches, how it transitioned over time

we started out. Um, it's pretty easy. At the beginning, we all knew that that it wasn't worth anything to it was worth anything, so we didn't have too much drama. Um, I think we have five co founders at one point throughout the first year, and we would just do equal equity splits, basic vesting schedules, all nonofficial legal, toxic. I wrote thes and Google documents. Um, and we knew that, like, it's just not worth arguing about governance at that stage of the company. Um, and I dropped down back to three co founders after a while, um, which it still is today. And it's just it's easy to stay on the same page, um, at the beginning of this stuff, because we had other jobs and what not and businesses and stuff. So the loyalty was kind of a thing like, where is this on your priority list? But, um, definitely. When it went back down to three, it was very easy to stay on top of everything altogether