You know, it's a very interesting question, right, Because when we all go to school, we way think we envision a path for us. Some of us do, at least and then and then like, just happens. And, uh and you look back at it 25 years later and you think what's happened? Um, look, I went to N Y u. I wanted to be a math teacher. I was always enamored with math. Um, I have very, very good, um, mathematical, analytical, etcetera skills. And I thought that was going to be my career path. And I knew absolutely nothing about finance and you even little even less about technology. And I graduated than what you think. And then I'm going to go into a cheerio. And then I started interviewing with the Big Six, a big eight back then, and then I saw the trading floor and what it looked like, and the energy that I that I saw that day on at Salomon Brothers trading floor. And you know what? I never looked back in 25 years later, I was one of the few lucky individuals that have built the financial technology as we know it today in the year 2020. So life is just like a box of chocolates. You never know what's gonna happen to you.

interesting again. Um, I never thought of myself as consultant. We I spent my entire career building teams and, of course, working for big, big, big corporations. And I enjoyed 25 years in the corporate environment world, and we file Be honest with you. We always looked a little bit down on consultancy because it was, you know, the inner circle versus the outer circle. And the consultants were never allowed to be into the inner circle. And, you know, when I left my last place of employment Bridgewater, I really wanted to understand how the one I wanted to understand the different angle. And I wanted to understand how the world looks onto Elektronik trading and onto financial technology. And so, you know, I started consulting few friends here. They're just tapped me on the shoulder asking for my help. Can I help them off a vendor selection? And can I help them? What? Their market data can I help them even understand what they have in terms of the financial apology on the hood? And I can tell you that. So, you know, my first couple of weeks were very, very hectic. I had no idea what I was doing. I had no idea what I was getting into. And again, I think, as I mentioned, I always looked at consultants as an outsider's. And now I can tell you that it's offered such a huge, completely different vantage points into every single thing that we've done for the past 25 years. It just looks you get a completely different perspective. You look at it from, you know, from how your clients look at the vendors, from how the clients or to the financial community, looks at whether or not it's worth investing into so totally, totally different vantage point, really loving it, enjoying it.

a tools. Agnostic, uh, the only tool that I use on a daily basis is my cue rather than I Q. Trying to ask. I call it the rule of three wise, um, trying to ask why the person or the client is needing what it is they're asking for. What is it that is really behind their question, as opposed to looking at what the question is on Dove course. You know videoconferencing. These days, everything is done by videoconferencing. But if you're specifically asking about, you know, the financial tools, no, just the irregular Excel and Q.