Yeah, well ah, lot of stuff I started in school, so I needed to make money while I was at school. So I got a job in i t. And it was they needed help installing desktops. So back in Oh, I don't know, 99 before the doctor, you know, 2000. So that was everybody was worried about, You know, y two k and everything like that being a problem. So I started at nights helping install desktops. Basically, I t support started doing that. I was going to school, and I like business. So I was studying business and then did a minor and information systems out. And I had started my degree. It was gonna be computer scientists, and then I was going to try to electrical engineer. I kind of switched around till I found what I liked. And then I worked through some of the things and they had a different spot in the I T department. So I took that job full time instead of just working nights, graduated and started working, and then did consulting. I moved in to become a consult Luton traveling around and doing those different things, and, uh I wanted to learn more, And so I went and got a master's degree in information systems management, which helped me a lot in that kind of areas. And then I did system administration, network management things of that nature and kind of continued and consulting and then finally moved over into project management. And that was when, uh, back in 2012. I didn't MBA So did that. And then I did a bunch of other different certifications, and I just kind of continued to work, you know, traveling consultants in that.

sure. So, as a project manager for a program manager, Microsoft, we have a couple different things that we handle. So I'm in the consulting services division. So normally under non Colvin type traditions, we travel usually every Sunday or Monday, and we come home every Thursday or Friday, depending on where the engagement is, in which project some international assignments have had. The travel would be two or three weeks, you know. So if you're going to Brazil or somewhere, it's a little bit further than you know. You would go for two weeks and come home for a week ago for two different things like that. So, uh, it's definitely high travel. Um, during covert, it's a little bit different. Typically, we you know, e. I've been able to work from home, so that's been nice, But the hours have been a lot longer. Normally, a week of work week is anywhere from 40 to 48 hours with the client, and then you have anywhere from 5 to 6 hours of administration work. On top of that for expense reports, other pieces of that nature, obviously, then, if you want to do any continuing education, you had that on top, and so you know, it's it's not uncommon to be a 55 hour week or so.

the challenges with project or project management are mostly people in processes, the technology problems we could almost solve. You know, it's usually a question of time or money, but the people in processes are the things that usually you have to figure out how to find bring together, customized for a specific client or the project that you're working on. You know the challenges within projects are Can you deliver the project its outcome within the stated time scope on budget? So you have various constraints. So not Is it just, you know, dealing with different peoples dealing with different time zones, different pieces of that nature. You've got to figure out how to consistently maintain your schedule baseline and deliver to that baseline of cost scope from budget. As you move into larger projects or programs, you end up having the issues of dealing with How do you get the roadmap? How do you strategize for delivering multiple projects together to deliver a combined value that benefits back into the either the business or the client? So there's different pieces. They're usually it's that you're going to get yelled at for somebody else's mistake that's ultimately rolls up to you, so you kinda have to be willing, toe, You know, say okay. I understand. That's our problem. Let me go investigate. It will take a look at and come back. So it's so that the you know not everything is your fault. But it is your fault. At the end of the day, you're responsible.