Okay, Well, I mean, there's so many questions there, and I I don't want to go over time, so I mean, I guess I'll just order to start, you know, how did you get to where you are today? So I'm gonna talk about view worker, which is Ah ah, company that started off as a company called Rent A Coder, Actually, and it was starting off, just connecting programmers to other programmers. And as far as how it, you know, began and how my career path with that began, it was shaped from what was a failure. What what it was was I actually had another business before, then called plants horse code, which it's time was very revolutionary. It was one of the first open source sites and back in his day, which was probably around pre pretty dot com crash. So before 2001 it had done very well for me. And, um, I was I was charging a lot of money to people like Microsoft and Oracle to run ads. Back then you would get paid about $40 CPM for a single ad meaning $40 to show an ad 1000 times versus today. You know, you might get like you're looking to get a couple pennies. So it was very lucrative. It did well, but what happened is the dot com crash came. And then all of a sudden, all these people that owed me money disappeared, and, ah, so these were my customers. My customers all went out of business. Ah, and they all owed me money. And I had all these bills, The's t one bills back then you couldn't just get internet to your home. So I basically had all these Ah, expensive t one lines that had signed. When you're leases on, I had to pay it, and I had no money coming in. So so that was the start of rent a coder. Because what happened is I said, Oh, my God. Goodness. You know, Alright, what am I gonna do? And I took a look at what I had around with that planet source code. I said, Well, people are gonna pay me, but you know, I have a resource that's valuable here. And the research. That's valuables. I have how these programmers and these programmers are always asking me, you know, and can you Please do this work for me. You can please help me with this. Can please help with that. And I was always saying No, no, I don't have time. I'm sorry. No, no. And I thought, you know what? If I could create a marketplace for programmers to allow them to do what they've been asking me over and over to do, and if I could make it safe, that would be it. That's how it all started. That was the idea behind it. And that's what pushed me along this path.

it was It was crazy because I was under so much stress and you know, all the financial pressure and all that. But, um, so really, the first month was wasted because I really didn't know what I was doing, and I was going all over the place, but I calmed down. I probably took me about a month to calm down and kind of focus and decide what I was gonna dio. And I thought the advantage that I had is I myself started off as a programmer, so I understood both what programmers can do and also understood what the customers wanted, so actually have both sides of it. And when I started working on this project, it was just me. I had my laptop. Um, I actually was supposed to go to a conference where I was gonna accept an award for planet source code. And, ah, you know, it's kind of ironic, because after what happened, you know, But still, I was gonna get this reward, so Ah, and I was there at the conference in my hotel room. Uh, you know, just typing up this new ideas like I got to make this work. So So that's why did I spent a whole month just coding working and just pretty much doing nothing else? After the end of that month, I had my first solid prototype. Uh, it actually was good enough where I was actually able to launch it.

So basically, I bootstrapped it. So you know, it wasn't like I had a bunch of, ah, capital where I could, like, very quickly hire a team. So anyone that I hired, I had to be able to pay for it, and I had to be able to pay for out of cash flow. So So so in my case basis. So the initial team was just me and Ah, and I brought over one person from planet source. Good. I had my long time business partner, Zoe, who has worked with me, on every single business that I've been on. I brought her over with me. We started working, and we are a good team, because what kind of opposites? I am the one who's like "Oh, wow, we could do all these great things and we should do this and we should do that." And she was the one that always is like "now, hold on a second. Wait a minute. if we do that, this is gonna cost us that amount of money. And what about this problem and that problem? Oh, that's gonna be a disaster." And so and then that would force me to defend it. And then I would have said, Well, what if we do this? What we would go back and forth, back and forth and between the two of us would really strengthen an idea and make it really, really good. So So she was like, a very key. Remember, having that person that's very different from me was like, really, really essential. That got me through probably for the first year. I would say so. It really just the two of two of us working for the first year. It was slow. It was hard at the beginning and, you know, it didn't take off right away. I launched that beta that I told you about it, put it out there and, you know, and I had planet source code. So I had, you know, technically millions of programmers that I could tap into and send over to this website, so I sent them over. But it didn't make like, a whole bunch of money right away. I mean, it was barely profitable the first month. I made a little bit of money, but certainly not enough to pay back. You know, my my five t one bills each one was, I think, at the time maybe like $1500 a month. I mean, I needed that, just like, you know, break even from the old stuff, let alone to, like, make a profit on the new thing. So I was in trouble. So So it took a long time. And, you know, we just we hashed out so many things over that first year is very difficult times, but, you know, eventually did. And I think some of the question further questions were about that. But I'll just say, you know, the team's composition once I once you know, her and I were the core team. Then once things settled down and I had something predictable and income that was repeatable. Then I hired that first higher, and, um, she was someone that Zoe knew. She was kind of a friend, which, I later learned, is kind of an interesting thing because there's a difference between hiring someone that kind of knows you versus later on rehiring someone that doesn't know you at all and honestly, the ones that don't know you at all. They work out a lot better. Because the ones that know you already, they know you. And so, you know, you tell them to do something, they tend to say, Oh, well, I don't think that's a good idea. And, you know, so versus someone that you know just higher after the normal process. I just found it was just a totally different dynamics. So and not say anything bad about the early hires, All of them, you know, were great and everything like that. But it's just different when you hire your your first true hire. Um, you know, a Sfar? Is that some of the responsiveness and stuff?