sure. So trying Thio to graduation started off doing a few internships. So one of the ones I did was in software engineering, Did a software quality assurance engineer as well. Um, to be honest, you know, neither of them were really anything I saw myself doing forever. But, you know, is a really good way for me to start looking into, like what I do. Like and what I don't like. The eventually ended up going into the Q A field worked in healthcare, worked in investment banking on, But I just come back from Southern California and started looking at jobs in L. A. Because I wanted toe, you know, see if I could move over there and this job was up. Beats by Dre. All my experience was in Web apps and mobile lapse, and they were looking for someone in the embedded field. So you figured, Why don't I apply and just see what happens? Um, turns out gotta call call back on Monday. But the recruiter went really well on then the following week. And, you know, I was on a plane over there interviewing in person. Um, fast forward to now. You know, beats by Dre was acquired by Apple on Ben, the head of program management. It actually approached me at one point and said, You know, why don't you join our team? You know, you're very good at building relationships. Very well spoken. Um, you know, at first I was reluctant, but ended up joining that team. And, you know, I never looked back. And here I am, and it was the best decision I ever made. So it's kind of how I got Thio got to this role.

So in a program. Managers, you know, top thing is managing a program schedule. So that's probably the most important thing. And being able to define milestones on key deliverables along the way to make sure projects on track. Also being able to identify risk, you know, or potential for risk before it happens. You know, start seeing that something's not going according to plan and going off the rails and being able to kind of get it back on track. Um, also being able to know the state of the program and being able to communicate that up Thio executive management as well. Um, I think the other big thing is, you know, understanding dependencies and the domino effect that they have. They aren't delivered on time. Um, top three priorities. Thinking this role is, you know, one of them, like set of communicating the important knowledge up to the key stakeholders. Eso that could be up or down. You know, it can also be getting status from management or from different parts of the team. And bringing that back to the software team on the other thing is, you know, advocating for continuous improvement. You know, we're always kind of learning and adapting as we go. So things that we struggled on on one program, we should definitely not struggle on on the next. So, um, that's definitely through the top priorities and then work hours. Um, you know, it really depends where we're at in the project. So, you know, we work with a lot of remote teams on cross functional teams across the globe. So there's times where we're starting our days, you know, eight or nine in the morning, mainly to get the handoff from, you know, in region Group. And then, you know, we'll meet back with them. It are eight or nine PM our time toe, hand, back off. So, you know, I think very, very well from 50 60 hours per week, easily and then, you know, things were really crazy. We also get on weekends, too.

I think one of the key things is being able to manage priorities, right? So it's very easy to say, You know, we'll just take the most highest priority issue and we'll focus on that. But typical of, like, experience is everything is a top priority, right? So really being ableto figure out where we need to go and focus Resource is, um, and kind of prioritize things. And one of the ways we do that is, Well, look at you know something, for example, that we've already shipped. You know, there's it's out in the field. It's working with customers versus something that we're working on that's going to be going out but isn't out yet. So we'll go in and prioritized thing that's actually affecting customers and has, you know, impact to our brand on Go figure out what that does or what the bare minimum we is to get by on the new program. Um, so, yeah,